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    Angel Michael

    Le Roy, perhaps I've completely missed the mark on you. I had gathered that you: Believe that Christ, prior to the Incarnation, was Michael the archangel Believe that Christ could have sinned & lost His salvation & had this happened would have eternally ceased to exist. Was I wrong to say you...
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    Angel Michael

    A shake-N-bake god would be a different God than what's identified in Scripture. A shake-N-bake God would be a God that does have another thing that's LIKE HIM. Like Michael the archangel - who Adventists (Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians and SDA's) say is "LIKE GOD". Of course this is...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    The following from the Michael the archangel applies here equally. Rob, you know your prophet contradicts the Bible in this area because I've already shown what you Isaiah 46 said: What is the struggle here Rob? God says that there is NONE LIKE God... ...Ellen White and the SDA Church say's...
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    Angel Michael

    Rob, you know your prophet contradicts the Bible in this area because I've already shown what you Isaiah 46 said: What is the struggle here Rob? God says that there is NONE LIKE God... ...Ellen White and the SDA Church say's there is ONE LIKE GOD. ...& it's Michael the archangel. I've also...
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    Angel Michael

    I came here asking specific questions about the Trinity and of the two Adventists who have responded to me one said they were anti-Trinitarian and you said you had not made up your mind about the subject? Did I misunderstand you?
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    Angel Michael

    People are at liberty to season up and shake-N-bake a god to their own taste. I would think that Scripture and the correct interpretation of it are like marker buoys in the ocean - you should stay within them. I can appreciate that things which are against the Bible make you feel wholesome and...
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    Angel Michael

    1st Corinthians 15 is explicit as to what the correct Gospel does (it saves) and is also explicit as to what the Gospel is. The real Gospel (the one that saves) is specific that both Christ died for our sins AND that Christ would rise again from death on the 3rd day and that both of those...
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    Angel Michael

    Not an Adventist nor have been one. From what I've read from Ellen White she definitely wrote some beautiful things but unfortunately also muscled in some horrific heresy. I did watch a review of her writings from Jimmy Akin who was quite charitable to her. Here is Akin's review...
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    Angel Michael

    A few more examples of what I'm trying to show. Every time SDA publications like the Sabbath Herald, the Sabbath School study guides, Signs of the Times, etc. give the name meaning of Michael they drop the question mark and say Michael means "WHO IS LIKE GOD" or "ONE WHO IS LIKE GOD". This...
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    Angel Michael

    Father, Son and Holy Spirit was "the agent" in creation. God is One Being, not three Beings. Scripture says the Father & Holy Spirit also took part in the creation. To say it simply Christ is Jehovah, Almighty God in the exact same way that the Father & Holy Spirit is God. If I'm understanding...
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    Angel Michael

    Not just an angel - an archangel. According to Daniel Michael was an archangel among other archangels. Michael is a mighty angel but regardless of how mighty still only a creation ( creature ) of Almighty God (Father, Son & Holy Spirit). Definitely not. Jude clarified that Michael was not...
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    The Sabbath

    Are there any other ceremonial feasts the Seventh-day Adventists observe in addition to the Sabbath?
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Rob, you've already stated you are not Trinitarian. Why don't you let another Seventh-day Adventist give it a go in answering my questions? Unless there just isn't any SDA's here who believe differently than you do. If that's the case I'll just wish all of you the best and go somewhere else. As...
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    Angel Michael

    Jude is frequently quoted by Jehovah's Witnesses and other Adventist groups as a proof that Christ was, prior to the Incarnation, Michael the archangel. Orthodox Christianity would disagree with that because Jude believed Jesus was "The Lord" and Jude contrasts Michael the archangel with the...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    You are no more Trinitarian than a Latter Day Saint or Jehovah's Witness, in fact perhaps less given you believe The Father would have been risked had the Son sinned and eternally died. It's ok Rob, I'd estimate that only about 20% of the Adventist folks I speak with admit that they are not...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Rob, you are not a Trinitarian, probably better for you to let Le Roy to explore this topic.
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    Angel Michael

    The problem is that she did Rob. Ellen said Christ was a separate "Being" from the Father here and that Christ was the ONLY Being in all the universe that could enter into all the councils and purposes of God. In case you missed it Ellen just said God was a Being and that Christ was a...
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    Angel Michael

    I ran out of time last night but fully intend to address your question. Read James 1, 13-17. Ellen White taught that Christ was drawn or yearned / desired to sin but "resisted" His temptations. As Scripture plainly says a man is only tempted within himself when the temptation is something he...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    I asked my questions in an SDA / Ellen White context because the SDA Church isn't Trinitarian and I'm interested in pinpointing why so many SDA's will initially deny this but end up making the identical profession of faith that you did (i.e. that God is conditional). I want to determine why...
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    Angel Michael

    I am 100% Trinitarian. SDA theology during the life and ministry of Ellen White through to today taught that the Son of God was a "potential christ", i.e. he (creature-christ) could have sinned, could have fallen & had this hypothetical taken place creature-christ would have rotted or...
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