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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    EGW: "Jesus refused to receive the homage of His people until He had the assurance that His sacrifice was accepted by the Father. He ascended to the heavenly courts, and from God Himself heard the assurance that His atonement for the sins of men had been ample, that through His blood all might...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    Greetings Polyglot P:"I do not believe a Son is his Father. P: The Bible never says the Son is the Father. Rob: You really confuse me. I do not see the Son as the Father, nor the Father as the Son, this might be a Catholic trinity idea? assuming you can ready their doctrines properly? God...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    P:" This is strange. Either you are claiming Mary was divine--a Catholic concept if ever there was one, or you are claiming Jesus had THREE parents, which is unnatural and for which there is no precedent. R: " Consider this verse "simple as it reads in KJV:" Ps 22:9 But thou art he that took...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    Greetings Polyglot P:"This is strange. Either you are claiming Mary was divine--a Catholic concept if ever there was one, or you are claiming Jesus had THREE parents, which is unnatural and for which there is no precedent. R: Well Jesus has TWO natures and that makes him unnatural already, we...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    Greetings Polyglot P:"Show me an inspired "thus saith the Lord" for it and perhaps I would believe it. As it stands now, I do not believe a Son is his Father. They are separate persons. According to Jesus, his Father is "the only true God." That word "only" should get people's attention...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    P" If one but stops to consider, it would make no sense having two separate entities here. One "YHWH" could not "rain" fire from another one. I see. So you also feel one being can make two solid objects in space as well, and make a shadow ? One as the light source and the other blocking the...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    I support nearly everything you have said, so why do you nit pick and make things hard? You said you like it simple and "plainly as a verse reads" ? If the Father is deity and he has a begotten Son, that makes the Son also deity, does it not? If Jesus is clearly written as YHWH in the OT, that...
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    Breaking the Sabbath in Order to Keep It?

    Do you believe that when the Bible says a man should leave his father and his mother when he joins himself to his wife it implies he should be financially independent of his parents? Yes Do you believe that if a man, and his wife and children, are being supported by the man's father, that he...
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    Breaking the Sabbath in Order to Keep It?

    Not sure I understand you here? James makes it clear a human must not doubt or be unstable in asking of God for divine power. And if you are in iniquities God does not hear you. You have to have attitude of gratitude before asking God for divine power. Back to the verse "But if any provide...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    I am struggling with what your theories of faith is Polyglot? I am going to write in your ideas?? So who was Jesus, if he is divine as angels are divine by not deity? Is Jesus just an angel? Or maybe he never pre-existed? And came only as a human from Mary's time? You also seem to suggest...
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    Lesson 7: Ultimate Loyalty: Worship in a War Zone

    The neglect of covenant renewal in the face of life's "achievement-oriented" rush. Intentionally "carve out" time for God, Really good points in this lesson Shalom
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    Breaking the Sabbath in Order to Keep It?

    "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel." (1 Timothy 5:8) I see this verse as saying if anyone cannot demonstrate his own faith in his own house, he has denied the faith and is without faith. God is...
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    The Great Disappointment of 1844

    Jesus began a special feast ministry in 1844 that is investigating all humans for their sins and especially those who are worthy of being saved. The Bible calls this feast ministry The Atonement. Technically one can sit on the right hand of the Father in heaven, and begin this Atonement when...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    This is a side issue - I like your scholarship but you are different to me I am / was a disciple of Jeff Benner - I agree with his ideas, but often also disagree You neglect to notice many Hebrew words have verb and noun forms which must have the same basic word meaning, only...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    Polyglot asks "Where in the Bible is such a term as "divine family" used? Or where in Ellen White's writings do you find this applied specifically to God? Rob “ I gave you Luke 1:35 it mentions two names doing a born process. If the Most High alone is solitary as deity, explain the many...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    I offer you a picture explaining Ps 91:1 Notice the Lamp as light comes from the Provider Most High The HS functions as a medium and controls the flow of light and makes an affect (yellow area) There are two shadows that come (less gray and more gray areas) - the umbra and pre-umbra shadows...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    Greetings Polyglot Please do not remark my theory of faith as “trinity” . I do not accept “trinity” but Elohiym as a “Divine Family” - this aligns with EGW and the Bible better. You are stating Elohiym means “the Father only” : a reference to a cardinal single BEING. I thought Elohiym is...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    Greetings Polyglot My earlier post was showing you Bible proof of three Divine persons in the Divine Family not as you claim, as one or two? (1) Rob quotes “Job 33:3 - the Ruwach is administrated by the Shadday” You did not notice the verse or its intent. You made a completely different...
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    Belief #5. Holy Spirit

    I see, so you do not believe in the Shadday as an administrator of the Holy Spirit, as Job 33:3 says? Thus you do not consider the Shadday as the third co-eternal person on the Godhead? Consider this verse (and yes I always translate the Greek (a fuzzy translation) back to Hebrew ( God's truth...
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    Belief #2. The Godhead

    I see. So tell me WHOM is this verse referring to? Job 5:17 ¶ Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: So is Eloah and Shadday are just descriptions of the same singular form Elohiym as a whole? Is that how you see this verse ...
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