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The margin of my Bible refers to Joseph as the "son-in-law of" Heli. I think it is significant that this genealogy goes all the way back to Adam. Which would demonstrate the fact that Jesus was in his humanity a son of Adam and therefore had inherited a fallen nature just as we. The first...

Grunion! you wrote: "This is in contrast to the message Lucifer put into the mind of Arius (& Ellen White) that Jesus COULD HAVE SINNED and lost His salvation." I have been of site for a while so I have missed a lot. Besides I tend to find the argumentation of higher learning a bit tedious so...

You assume a lot Grunion. I have not "admitted anything". Other than I have questions that are unresolved. You have not explained how or if I am in danger of damnation. You just keep demanding that we bend the knee to you. It is like the Diet of Worms. "Submit or die" Your example about the...

Well Grunion, I am baffled. I cannot follow you. You quote me that I hold no view either way and then say that I just did??? If I have said or done anything that would cause you to think as you do then perhaps someone else who is reading this thread can explain to me what you see that I don't.

I brought this up because Grunion seemed to have left the thread and did not want to answer my question. So the quote that you used in your previous post about the son of Mary and the Son of God were blended into one being, touches upon my favorite topic; the incarnation. Plus this touches upon...

Rob, When Paul wrote that it was no longer I that live but it is Christ who liveth in me, Is that any different than the Son of God living in the son of Mary?

By the way Grunion, I am still waiting for a quote where I have, "admitted (something) most boldly" Can you help me see something that I am not seeing?

The gift that God desires to give us goes way beyond His abundant forgiveness. It offers full restoration into the family of God, through our death and resurrection which are so freely given. Not only this, we are offered a marriage to God, where the Son’s divinity envelopes our humanity and we...

One of the friends of Daniel is named Mishael and Strongs definition is "Who is what God is" Just a thought. No conviction about it one way or the other. No I don't think he is God but God dwelt in his temple.

What are you talking about? I have made no claims. can you quote where you think I did? I don't really know what Trolling is. I hear it a lot in the news but I am not sure what that is.

I am neither. I hold no conviction on either. I have stated this several times. Do you believe that the Son wants to dwell in everyone?

Yes, sometimes myopia can strike when we are too focused on one thing. The only thing I can add to your statements to make it more correct is that Jesus, the son of Marry, could have sinned but the Son cannot rebel against Himself or the Father.

You have not given any evidence that I fit in to this reply. Again, you have not given any evidence that I personally am off base. it is like when a politician is asked a specific question and their answer actually avoids the question that is asked. How does any of this relate to me?

Grunion wrote, "People are at liberty to season up and shake-N-bake a god to their own taste. I would think that Scripture and the correct interpretation of it are like marker buoys in the ocean - you should stay within them." LeRoy Reply, This is a strange reply to what I wrote, who is...

Well Grunion, your reactive spirit is reveals a lot. I have made no definitive statements about Michael, or the trinity only asked questions or pointed out things that I have read. Having no idea of what I believe on these subjects you have jumped to conclusions about what I have written and...

This is from the book The Desire of Ages 161 In the cleansing of the temple, Jesus was announcing His mission as the Messiah, and entering upon His work. That temple, erected for the abode of the divine Presence, was designed to be an object lesson for Israel and for the world. From eternal...

What you have replied with is more of a theological description of redemption, which I had read and heard for years and it did little for me. When Father comes and reveals something to me there is a deep lesson that transcends theology, it brings life. What He gives me personally touches my...

Hello Grunion, I have listened to a few sermons recently about anti-Trinitarian but they didn't call it that. However, I have no thought or conviction either way. It seems of no consequence either way, from what I can tell. Am I in jeopardy if I have no conviction either way? As I have said my...

So are you or have you ever been an Adventist? What do you think of Ellen's writings? I am totally without understanding in the "flesh Father" wording. Where did that come from? As for me the SDA church is the only church that I have belonged to. However I no longer can accept where the...

Hello Grunion, I would start by saying that my focus is and has been on the plan of redemption and the incarnation, through which God saves us from sin and redeems us to Himself. The following is true for me, so in searching for common ground is the following true for you? The Son of God was...